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. it was downgraded to a category 3. state leaders are still not taking chances. virginia will go into emergency mode to prepare for never the storm could bring. courtney robinson has more details from the satellite center. it's good it has been downgraded. >> it is. there's a hurricane watch in place in virginia on the coast. it has been almost 20 years since the hurricane had so much of the eastern seaboard in its sights. hurricane earl blew through the mile-per- with 135 - hour winds, leaving people without clean drinking water. it is expected to parallel the east coast, possibly present allen banks of north carolina. officials are preparing and many beachgoers are evacuating already. in ocean city, maryland to the town officials are preparing for the worst. lifeguards have rescued many swimmers from dangerous recurrence in the past few days. >> i never thought i would be in that position before. i was really scared. they got me alex. >> virginia is bracing as well, getting ready for a state of emergency. the current projections put it 200 miles off virginia beach. too close for comfort as it coul
way from 121 down towards the split. our next stop 66 headed eastbound in virginia. all clear, nice and green. you're moving at speed here through centreville and ending with a glance at 95 headed southbound. near the thornburg area we're getting word of some brush fires taking away some lanes for drivers right before route 3. you're definitely going to want to watch for crews. my advice, avoid this if you can. 95 and thornburg avoid it if you can. >>> hurricane earl is continuing to spin towards the east coast. it's forecast to at least graze north carolina's outer banks or more late thursday but virginia's governor isn't taking any chances. governor bob mcdonnell will declare an emergency later this morning. 9news now's kristin fisher has the latest. >> reporter: well current forecast put the eye of the storm hitting just about 200 miles east of virginia beach but governor bob mcdonnell is not taking any chances. he wants to go ahead and declare an emergency today just in case earl comes closer to making landfall so the national guard and state manual personnel have enough time to
. end with 95 northbound in virginia. it is one solid, steady slow ride from lorton to backlick and going southbound, we were hoping the accident at backlick would have cleared by now but it is still there taking away alet lane. >>> at the top of the hour it is all the about hurricane earl. as howard told us the storm is moving by the outer banks. this is what it looks like in atlantic beach, north carolina. a lot of towns were evacuated ahead of the storm. the delmarva is bracing for a brush with earl later this afternoon. how are things looking right now? >> well, we somewhere are just starting to feel the tropical afcs. the wind has picked up. close to gale gale force. an the winds off the ocean has a tropical feel. so we know something is close but as howard reported really primetime for earl on the delmarva peninsula is yet to come. probably in the mid to late morning. although officials here in ocean city think it will be over by 3:00. even so, this has been an exercise in preparedness. the big gates on the sea walls slammed shut. the final preparations for keeping a menac
felt, but first bruce leshan is kicking off the coverage live in virginia beach. earlier you were seeing more winds and rain. what are you seeing now. >> still fairly light rain. although i'm getting slapped in the face a little bit and the wind is gusting up to maybe, 15 to 17 miles an hour. you can see the beechcrafts around me blowing good. there are all sorts of signs that say earl doesn't swirl here and so far he is well off the coast. i don't know how familiar you are with the geography but the outer banks stick pretty far east in to the ocean and we recede to the west and earl should remain 150 miles off the coast. look at video we shot a few minutes ago. this is the scene along atlantic avenue and the boardwalk in virginia beach. you can see the wind is blowing pretty good, but not much more than you would get in a decent regular storm, nonhurricane kind of storm in the summer. there are a lot of storm chases who come out. we saw people on the beach at 4:00 in the morning looking for earl and so far not seeing anything that impressed them too much, but there are thousands
coverage. bruce leshan is live in virginia beach. scott broom is live in ocean city where the wind anne and rain are picking up and of course howard is tracking the storm from the weather center. let's start with howard. >> the storm is staying off shore and weakening wind down to 85 miles an hour. the back edge of the rain is raining across anne arundel, eastern charles and st. mary's and calvert county but it will wind down shortly. the clouds have been back toward us keeping the temperatures at bay. in the low 80s. go to the radar and zoom in a little bit and you can see how the storm is moving in. it is almost even with cbs hictague here. i put the winds down with the radar. we will go to my night an you can see the storm had big winds. as we went through overnight they had more gusts. norfolk gusts of 28. through now, winds 32 hatteras, 22 norfolk. 28 ocean city. the winds mainly off shore. in fact this buoy here, north winds gusting to 38. that is east of fenwick island. that is where the heart of the heaviest winds are. still in ocean city with winds of 28 miles an hour and big w
of the weekend. >> reporter: now down to my colleague bruce leshan in virginia beach. >> the storm chasers may be disappointing that the storm is tracking farther out to sea and weakening, but there are people here at virginia beach who are happy. see back there the scaffolding, the port-o-potties, for the american music festival. and take a look. gloria gainer. reo speedwagen, pat bena tar, slated to take the stage this weekend, starting on friday, hours after earl is expected to blast through. the old saying you'll be lucky if you get married in a rain storm. this couple figures marrying with a hurricane coming is like hitting the lottery. >> i got married in sunlight. well i got married in a rain storm. yeah, well i got married in a hurricane. >> reporter: a cacophony of hurricane preps in the beach and dead quiet in the emergency center. managers are hoping that the track holds and earl slips by in the dark without waking the neighbors. but people here are haunted by the specter of hurricane bonnie in 1998. forecasts had predicted she would spare virginia beach too. >> we went home and dec
hariggan is in virginia beach, virginia, where they are awaiting earl's heavy rains and high winds. steve, what's it like so far? >> reporter: none of that rain hitting yet. the winds have gotten slightly stronger with gusts up to 30 or 40 miles per hour. they expect the eye of the storm to pass 100 miles offshore here in virginia beach. so they don't expect too much physical damage. 200 national guard troops have been moved to the coastline in case they are necessary and shelters have been set up for as many as 20,000 people. that doesn't look like it's going to happen so far. throughout the day, we saw people boarding up their houses with plywood or hard plastic. but a lot more cureiosity. even righted now, we have a number of people walking along the boardwalk or the beach. gusts of winds, but not a sense of impending peril here. some real concerns about the economic potential that this storm could bring, some major events scheduled for this weekend, a large concert and a large half marathon. so travelers expected here. they are going to have difficulty traveling throughout this storm.
to norfolk, virginia beach. passing the delmarva tomorrow. midday tomorrow, yeah, it will be rough through noon. after noon things will improve as the storm heads to massachusetts where they are under a hurricane warning for cape cod. an then the storm will be out of here quickly. the next 24 hours will be the worst around here. but the weekend will bring big changes once earl passes. i will have those details in a few minutes. thank you. >>> so far governor o'malley says it is unlikely that ocean city will have to be evacuated but the government is advising drivers not to drive to or from that area during the storm. scott broom has the latest on preparations that are occurring there. scott, what can you tell us? >> i'm outside of the emergency operations center in ocean city where there is a 1:00 briefing of officials. they are on the same page as governor o'malley. you can feel a little humidity building and a little breeze coming in from the east. that's a hint of the tropics and aahing of what's to come. as i said earlier, ocean city officials had talked to us and barring any big chang
is in the weather center and steve hariggan is in virginia beach, virginia, where they are awaiting earl's heavy rains and high winds. steve, what does it look like now? we saw a wind situation. have you seen any more rain? >> reporter: no rain yet. you were talking about how the storm has developed over the past few days. we were down a couple of days ago in the u.s. virgin islands where we saw this as a much more powerful storm than we are feeling it here. in the virgin islands we were there and it was really strong enough to take roof its off of buildings and knock down trees, quite a bit of structural damage in the north eastern caribbean. real concern for life and limb. here in virginia, we are seeing a very different story because the storms moved so slowly, about 15 or 18 miles per hour, you can really leap-frog and keep up with it. >>> what are you hearing? are there people that left thinking the storm would do more as they come around and turn back. and this may be a great holiday weekend after all? >> it really depends on how travel goes tomorrow. it depends on how much rain is dumped
, rich reichmuth is in the weather center and steve hariggan is in virginia beach, virginia, where they are awaiting earl's heavy rains and high winds. steve, what does it look like now? we saw a wind situation. have you seen any more rain? >> reporter: no rain yet. you were talking about how the storm has developed over the past few days. we were down a couple of days ago in the u.s. virgin islands where we saw this as a much more powerful storm than we are feeling it here. in the virgin islands we were there and it was really strong enough to take roof its off of buildings and knock down trees, quite a bit of structural damage in the north eastern caribbean. real concern for life and limb. here in virginia, we are seeing a very different story because the storms moved so slowly, about 15 or 18 miles per hour, you can really leap-frog and keep up with it. >> it depends on travel and whether the flights go in on time. virginia beach was expecting a huge tourist weekend, both the american music festival with reo speed wagon set to play here as well as the rock and roll half marathon
at the radar, it is raining really hard. they are getting wind driven heavy rains from virginia beach down to nags head. those areas of yellow and orange, the center of circulation of earl is just about 40 or 50 miles to the east of hatteras. but the heavy rains are coming in inland and slamming the beach area there. our local radar not showing rain here but there are a few sprinkles in the northern neck of virginia and bay. some of the rain will be arriving into ocean city in the next hour. and earl, here's the wide view continues to advance to the north. it's a category 2 storm. the winds have decreased since yesterday morning at this time but still a powerful storm moving north-northeast at 16. it will take it up towards new england. closer view of the track showing it will be further out to sea. there's still going to be enough tropical storm force winds, maybe 40 to 50-mile-per-hour gusts at ocean city later today. we'll have temperatures climbing in the mid to upper 90s. and breezy tomorrow near 80. looks like a great labor day weekend. how's the traffic? >> we're starting you off wi
center and steve hariggan is in virginia beach, virginia, where they are awaiting earl's heavy rains and high winds. steve, what's it like so far? >> reporter: none of that rain hitting yet. the winds have gotten slightly stronger with gusts up to 30 or 40 miles per hour. they expect the eye of the storm to pass 100 miles offshore here in virginia beach. so they don't expect too much physical damage. 200 national guard troops have been moved to the coastline in case they are necessary and shelters have been set up for as many as 20,000 people. that doesn't look like it's going to happen so far. throughout the day, we saw people boarding up their houses with plywood or hard plastic. but a lot more cureiosity. even righted now, we have a number of people walking along the boardwalk or the beach. gusts of winds, but not a sense of impending peril here. some real concerns about the economic potential that this storm could bring, some major events scheduled for this weekend, a large concert and a large half marathon. so travelers expected here. they are going to have difficulty traveling
to maryland and virginia. a state of emergency is already in effect in both states. you can see why when you take a look at the winds out there. >> about >> the good new is it is dragging the worst of its energy away from us. we'll still get gusty winds along the beaches. >> this was a major hurricane yesterday. let's get to t i'll show you the satellite-radar. again, the eye never making landfall although it is brushing the coast of the carolinas up into southern maryland here and southeast maryland as we speak. rain bands as you can see, most impressive, very heavy rain. we've got wind gusts reported up to about 70 miles per hour earlier this morning in cape hatteras. i mentioned it is pushing off to the north and east. it is getting kind of stretched out now. you can see it getting dragged there to the north and east and away from the washington area. the cloud shield all the way back into western maryland and western virginia and that will kind of get pushed out too. so hang in there. we'll have a left cloud cover and even some light showers. but later this afternoon, here in the washing
a hurricane. we are watching him spinning east of the virginia north carolina border with heavy rains, a few of those showers into southern maryland and northern neck. temperatures in the 70s with 60s now in the valley. 88 by noon, a little more sun drive home temperature is 87. >> >> 9 news now is brought to you in part by lighten up. . >> you can tell by the microphone sounds the winds picking up so is the rain. here we go. and so is the rain. here we go. harry, erica, over to you. >> good job. >> dave, thanks. >>> still ahead this morning, a woman is attacked with a cup of acid. thrown at her face by a complete stranger. she'll share her really unbelievable story of survival. >>> also, the best deals on four wheels. find out why this weekend is the best time of year to buy a car. >>> plus, just how clean is your kitchen? if you're like many americans, not very. probably wouldn't even pass a restaurant inspection. don't invite us to dinner. just kidding. we'll tell you how to clean it up. ♪ our natural sweetener is born from the leaves of the stevia plant. it's sparkly and sweet with zer
're going to show a live picture of virginia beach. the storm is just offshore there. sam champion is there. you see the waves kicking up. it was a little tough ride in north carolina. >> overnight, earl came within 85 miles of cape hatteras, with wind gusts up to 78 miles per hour. that is hurricane force. and it may be a sign of what's to come further north. over the next 24 hours, hurricane earl is expected to give a second punishing blow to eastern massachusetts. that's montauk right there. hurricane warnings are all up for cape cod and martha's vineyard and nantucket. boats being pulled from the water. fema, sending supplies and telling people not to be lulled into any sense of security. >> we have our correspondents in the storm zone, up and down the coast. we lead off with sam champion on virginia beach. hey, sam. >> good morning, george. good morning, elizabeth. this is a category 2 hurricane. there was some weakening overnight. when you talk about hurricane-force winds at 74 miles per hour, 78 miles per hour, you're talking about a nasty storm. look at the skies here. look at the c
. and then during the morning hours on friday, it will be east of virginia beach, perhaps right around 8:00 on friday morning. and then by noon time just east of ocean city, by 2:00 p.m. friday just off of cape may new jersey, and even though the center of circumstance hags will be off the coast, the tropical storm force winds will certainly be felt right along the atlantic beaches and then affecting new england. look at all the tropical storm watches and warnings that are up. this is a hurricane warning, this red zone around the outer banks from virginia beach all the way town through north carolina. farther to the north, this is a hurricane watch for our atlantic beaches along the shore of the -- from delaware all the way down through virginia shore line, that is a hurricane watch. and the likely effects from the storm, very wet ocean city on friday with tropical bands of heavy rain coming in. tropical storm force winds. for us this morning, we have temperatures around the region in the 70s. 77 in washington, and beef got a huge area of high pressure, so plenty of sunshine today. we'll
. >> this is the first time the city is allowing early voting. >>> still to come, we are live in virginia beach as residents baton down for hurricane earl. >>> and plus a look at evacuations taking place ahead of that storm. we'll be right back. there's something you never hear vince gray talk about: his record running dc's department of human services. why? under gray, dhs lost out on millions of federal dollars for missing paperwork; lost money for the homeless; even lost track of foster children. a court ordered gray's department to improve child services. gray's not a bad guy but he was a bad manager. do we want to go back to that? >>> turning our attention to the latest on hurricane earl. the folks in the outer banks taking no chances tonight. it's sunny there, but mandatory evacuations are in effect for ocracoke and hatteras islands. closer to home, both maryland and virginia's governors have declared states of emergency ahead of the storm. our team coverage begins with scott broom in ocean city, maryland. >> reporter: i'm scott broom in ocean city, maryland, where they do not anticipate
a hurricane watch as well from rehoboth beach down, essentially uh, to the virginia, north carolina border. that's a hurricane watch and also a tropical storm uh, warning. so, a no mandatory evacuations in virginia beach just yet, but plenty of people are clearing out of the way. bruce leshan is live down in ocean front, bruce? >> reporter: hey, topper, this family is among those who are not clearing out. check it out. they're about to get married right down here on the beach. they say you're lucky your major is lucky if you get married when it rains and they said they must have hit the lottery. >> like shakespeare, captain mark hodges figures discretion is part of valor. he's planning to ride out earl on dry land. >> 60 miles, you know, would be very risky if you break down, nobody's going to want to come get you and you're stuck out there in the middle of a hurricane. i'd be sunk by midnight, probably. >> thousands of tourists are packing up the kids and boogie boards and leaving the ocean front early. >> we're heading back to indiana one day early. we're going to skip out one day. >> do
a dangerous storm. and we have team fox coverage. steve harrigan in virginia beach. jonathan serrie in kill devil hills, north carolina. first to the chief meteorologist rick reichmuth in the fox extreme weather center. rick, have you been saying it's going to lessen in intensity and it has. >> yeah. take that right-hand turn which is also good news. all of our graphics located because this information comes out and take as second to get that going. this is a look at earl here. one other thing come out in the advisory to me is a little more interesting is calling the movement at 10 degrees instead of dew north. earlier 355 we were saying and dew north. slight easterly jog and that's what you want to see in the direction of this. so we still have a hurricane advisory going on. we have our warnings in effect in the north carolina, virginia border down towards bogue inlet. we will see likely hurricane wind gusts going through here and also winds coming out of the north. that is going to cause for overwash of those roads and this outer bank area. but, from the sound side, not necessarily from t
in north carolina as it moves away from the coast, it's going to continue to worsen at virginia beach as well as ocean city, maryland and cape maine, new jersey. the storm is at the bulk of it. you can see on the satellite, i'll loop it for you. the bulk of the system was well to the west. it's 100 miles east of virginia beach. it's the outer most bans on the western side coming through the areas on virginia beach. even the northern neck. it's a category two. it's going to pick up speed. cape cod and nantucket will get the worst of it before moving away. right now, northeast at 16 miles per hour. the watch and advisories remain up. i'm expecting, barbara, i know you are trying to make it there this weekend. winds 60 miles per hour in cape cod. we'll tell you what to expect where the showers are east of 95. >> did they say the islands off massachusetts could take a direct hit? >> not a direct hit but more rain. two to four inches of rain if not more in somexd areas. >> we'll check in with you again. hurricane earl could keep drivers home. you could avoid delays by traveling before noon
to virginia beach, wave heights about five feet. so it's beginning to make its presence felt. let me show the satellite picture. it has weakened. the pressure has gone up. winds are down to 105 miles per hour. it's about -- >> the winds have slowed a bit to 105 miles per hour. certainly still powerful and we're feeling the effects now. a lot of gusty wind and some rain and the worst is expected in the next few hours. hurricane earl is slamming waves into north carolina's coast. the massive storm started moving closer as the sun went down. donna headed to the beach to capture its arrival. >> i wanted to see how rough the ocean is and just how angry it's getting. >> reporter: a hurricane warning meant evacuation orders for about 35,000 tourists and residents on the outer banks. the ketners were angry to see their vacation cut short. >> we were going to ride it out. but when they make you leave. >> reporter: business owners with no plans to leave boarded up with little time to spare. north carolina's governor says the state is prepared. she urged those riding out the storm to stay hunk erred
a lot. >>> also tracking this for us, we're in virginia beach giving us a look at conditions there. winds are whipping up, bruce. >> yeah, anita, it is hard to believe that we could be looking at tropical storm-force winds here and heavy, heavy rain and flooding in just about 36 hours from right now, because at this point it is a spectacular day down here in virginia beach. earl is about 800 miles behind me out to sea, and the expectation is that it will turn right just off of hatteras. the hurricane watch extends to the north carolina state line which is about 10 to 20 miles from where i stand right now. excuse me, the hurricane warning extends there. and we're in the hurricane watch area. there are red flags flying here. the surf is already dangerous. but as you might imagine, the surfers are having an absolute blast. it is a little bit flat right now, but the sets are about chest high and there are a ton of surfers out. come to the left unsee this giant sand berm they built here. you can perhaps see some of the kids that are playing here. this is a big, big weekend down here in
tonight. steve harrigan, virginia beach. charmin scedy live in chat that mass morris. first to kill delve hills in north carolina and our jonathan serrie is standing by. what do people there say they are expecting? >> well, shep, i have been using my pocket wind meter clocking winds right now 26 miles per hour. understand the brunt of the storm is still hours away. residents here are hoping that the storm will only sideswipe the outer banks but they anticipate there is a very good chance that the storm will move further inland and that they may be experiencing tropical storm force winds easily but quite possibly hurricane force winds in excess of 74 miles per hour, shep. >> shepard: how confident are officials there in north carolina that everybody is as ready as they are going to be for this thing? >> state officials are very confident that people have taken the proper precautions by and large the tourists who have been urged to evacuate the outer banks have already left and local residents who decided to hunker down, we watched them as they stocked up at local grocery and hardware store
from virginia beach. >> reporter: we're here where they're still plucking people out of the water from hurricane danielle and the rip currents and waves that that storm generated. hurricane watches are posted for this area and evacuations in some areas under way already. we'll have the latest forecast track on hurricane earl and the most news in the morning continues. >>> welcome back to the most news in the morning. storm preparations are under way right now all along the east coast with hurricane earl fast approaching. earl is passing near the turks and caicos islands this morning. it's just been downgraded to a category 3 hurricane with 125-mile-an-hour winds. still pretty fast. >> oh, yeah. north carolina is on notice because of earl. authorities have ordered tourists and people living there to leave the barrier islands. one of them is accessible only by ferry. also cape look outnational seashore. earl is on track to brush by the carolina coast by tomorrow night and the hurricane watch is up along the outer banks as well. >> fema is urging people to stock up on supplies and have an
that with a guest from "the washington post." he also plans to meet with local families in richmond, virginia, and iowa, to talk about the economy, and do some more campaigning here at home and washington. on friday, a ceremony for justice elena kagan that the supreme court. speaking of the supreme court's newest justice, "usa today" reports that she first is -- faces the first supreme court test today. where with no law clerks are sectors present, to decide which cases to take up later how they should be resolved. and a first of the private sessions for the new term, which officially begins october 4, they will slip through thousands of appeals filed over the summer to decide which should be job -- granted hearings. the conference room is where all of the most and poor decisions of the most and poor decisions are made and they are made by the nine justices and no one else -- the most important decisions are made and they are made by the nine justices and no one else. many justices speak about how intimidating the first sessions can be. in hawaii justice anthony kennedy says the first confere
near virginia beach. sort of a glancing blow last night as it brushed the outer banks. 105 miles per hour sustained winds at the center. the western side is starting to affect ocean city. you can see some rain on the shoreline. it will be a little bit turbulent for the next couple of hours and then things will improve. you can see the weakening. there is no definable eye right now. this one from 140 miles per one 28 category 2 at 105. we have a squeeze play taking place. a cold front will push it further to the northeast. it is moving at 18 miles per hour. behind this front, a huge game changer. we have much cooler conditions headed for us this weekend. we have been above 90 degrees for 55 degrees. we will drop into the 70's this weekend. -- for 55 days. it will pass by ocean city by about 1:00 p.m. this afternoon. it maybe will clip long island and that ultimately nova scotia it and will be out of the scenario for the weekend. there is a small craft advisory with those gusty winds up to 25 knots. after high tide, just a little bit above normal, so the coastal flood advisory was canc
and get back in line. >> greta: virginia is bracing for impact as earl heads-up the east coast. steve harrigan joins news virginia beach. -- joins us in virginia beach. >> reporter: the wind getting slightly stronger. not a sense of panic or deep concern. you still have a lot of people walking along the boardwalk even the beach where those white caps are beginning to break. the eye of the storm may pass as far as 100 miles offshore. the governor has declared a state of emergency. no impending sense of crisis. we saw earlier a number of people boarding up with hard plastic or plywood. along the beach many with a sense of curiosity looking to see how high those waves will get. the heart of the storm should come in after midnight. the real concern isn't destroyed buildings that the wind or floods might bring, but the economic effect this is a big weekend here in virginia beach. a large music festival planned as well as a half marathon. tends of thousands expected. they are going to have a tough time arriving during that storm. >> greta: what has the navy been doing along the virginia coa
from the outer banks. virginia beach hit hard and maryland area and beaches in delaware seeing the strongest winds. the storm tracks off the coast for the most part. the heaviest winds and rain offshore and the big waves doing the damage along the coast and the pictures you will see. we have hurricane warnings up for areas of cape cod and the hurricane center thinks it's possible to make a direct impact out on the cape. it is looking more unlikely and still a hurricane warning so we have to wait until they drop that, maybe they'll do that at 11:00. as far as the waves go, 23-foot waves right now of virginia beach. that forecast track takes it parallel to the coast today. don't expect a big increase of the winds today in maryland and delaware. jersey area, long island seeing worse today and right off of cape cod later tonight. here's how it looks. as far as the storm goes, the center of the circles where it's located. heaviest of the rains along the jersey shore, new england 2:00 to 4:00 today and then the worst exiting jersey shore about 6:00. racing up the coast for cape cod,
, turning away from new york city, turning away from washington, d.c., from richmond, from virginia beach. but there will be damage along the north carolina outer banks. there may even be some damage in new england and we'll, obviously, see some of that as the days go on. anderson? >> we want to check back in with you. i do want to go to kill devil hills, which sits on a very thin strip of land with water on both sides, with hurricane earl on one side. rob, you're the closest to the storm. what do you expect tonight? what are people there doing? >> reporter: well, a lot of people have gotten out of here. evacuation orders went out, especially south of here, where it's a little bit thinner, as chad mentioned, and over-washing of the highways there a distinct possibility. in 2003 when hurricane isabel came through, it cut a whole new patch right through the road. it took them weeks to rebuild that. they don't want to cut people off from society. what happened today was really a slow ramp up to what we see now, almost tropical storm strength gusts. that is about it. the rain is now starting
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